The case against quotas
The quota system will bring success, joy and happiness to the South African cricket team, so fu©k that.
Selecting a human based on their skin colour is wrong, even when done to appease past wrongs, or because they look better in green.
Justin Ontong.
How does selecting a player who is not good enough really promote cricket to dark people, do they want to see Charl Langeveldt bowing 20 overs without getting a wicket. Does anyone want to see Charl Langeveldt?
If there should be any quota systems in South Africa it should be for spinners, or good blokes.
Quotas don’t make sense from a mathematical standpoint, because even if there are 11 players in a cricket team, and ten percent are white and Indian, what’s to say there isn’t 5 white players, or 5 Indian players who are good enough to make the team at any one time.
If selection is not based on merit, is this really a side that represents the people.
South Africans made up this system, so it is obviously flawed.
If Makhaya Ntini is the most popular sportsman in South Africa (by some margin) then clearly by having black players who are in the side rightfully you are promoting the game in a positive way, without forcing it down anyone’s throat.
No one wants to play in any side simply because they are black, they want to play because they are good enough, or because they have comprimising photo’s of the reigning chairman of selection.
Anything that hurts my man Andre is evil and it must be stopped, by any means necessary.
Fu(k you quota system, we are not interested.
I am going to make a serious comment on this blog for once in my life: The existence of a quota system as an attempted solution to underrepresentation of various groups distracts from the real underlying reasons for that underrepresentation, and prevents it from being addressed. Quotas: just another form of oppression?
Well f*ck my old boots! They’ve stuck to their guns, and Monde Zondeki’s been selected to replace Langevelt.To be fair, he is bowling fantastically in first class cricket, he’s taken 62 wickets at an average of 19.16.I can’t see Andre Nel sticking this any longer. He’s gonna sign as a Kolpak player in no time at all.
Well, the quota system stems from post-indepedence constitutional arrangements in India, I understand.If I remember correctly, from my university days, the theory behind them employs deep legal and philosophical theory. If anyone is interested, I can dig out my old law books and, you know, bore you all?
Please do The Atheist, I’ve been suffering insomnia this week, and could use a sleep
I was actually hoping that you would say “no”.
I Am The Law And The Law Is Not Mocked.
I’ll spit his pity right back in his face.
well done miss field.
Of course it is mocked Mims. Universally so.But we do it with light in our hearts.Who’s pity Miss-Field? That sounds scary.
Meritocracy has its merits but how do you get a segment of the population to get involved when, for a significant amount of time, that segment has been marginalized?And do people not get shafted in a purely meritocratic society also ( as the parameters for merit are subjective?)Cheers
Ah, sorry, Miriam was quoting a line from Les Miserables and I added the next line.
Hi Homer! I think that’s precisely the question: how DO you get the formerly-marginalised involved, without making their involvement seem in some way contrived / compromised, and without perpetuating the separation by marginalising another segment? I don’t know the answer, but I can’t believe there isn’t a better way than quotas. I agree with your second point too, but where there’s a way of assessing merit shouldn’t we at least try our best? In that regard, quotas do appear to me to spring from good intentions as I agree with recognising that sometimes the most talented people might not automatically rise to the top because of their circumstances, but I think that putting in place a quota takes this too far and isn’t the right answer to the right question.
Miriam,I agree that quotas are not the best way out – but they are the easiest way – of making a public display for change and of displaying will.As regards the assessment of merit, I remain wary. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?Cheers
Hi HomerMy concern with quotas is just that: that they are a public display, but don’t get to the substance of the problem. In fact one might say “aegrescit medendo” (sorry, I couldn’t resist).
touche!
Sorry Homer, I do like a little bit of Latin now and again!